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How To Make The Right Offer On The Car You Want



By: Gregg Hall

Shopping for a car is one of the things that most people dread, I know a couple of people that like it but they are very deranged individuals. I mean who wants to spend a perfectly good Saturday arguing with some guy in a tie with his hair slicked back who is using every closing clich you ever heard to try to get you to buy today?

The way to avoid the majority of the conflict in the first place is to do your homework first. If you have access to the internet and since you are reading this I assume you do, there is no excuse for not being well prepared in advance. You can go to sites like Edmunds and Kelly Blue Book to get the actual invoice costs on vehicles and with a little digging you can find out what their dealer holdback and carryover allowances are as well as find all the current rebates and cash incentives. If you don't do this you are setting yourself up to get taken.

Don't fall in love with a particular car and buy into the lie that it is the only one. That is the beauty of buying a new car, if the dealer you are trying to buy from doesn't want to give you the deal you want you can go down the road and find another car exactly like you want and get the deal you want.

Depending on what time of the year you are trying to buy you can buy a new car for invoice if you know what you are doing and stick to your guns. Now some vehicles you won't be able to do this on. If you just have to have the hot new model, expect to pay for it but generally most dealers will take a deal if they are making anything at all on it. Each car on their lost is costing them money every month it sits there.

As I alluded to earlier don't be shoved around. Tell the salesperson what you are willing to do and if you are like me and want to avoid the back and forth game then tell them you are not going to play their back and forth game, they have one shot they can do what you want or you will go elsewhere. They need to sell a car more than you need to buy one, I promise. You can be firm without being a jerk; you just want to be in control. The control starts the moment you arrive at the dealer, if you are approached tell them you want to look by yourself and you will come get them when you have found something you like.Dealerships train salespeople to control the prospect so if you turn it around on them at the start then the ball is in your court.

If you are looking at the average new vehicle you should be able to get it for no more than about a 3% profit. I bought my 2005 Nissan Titan for about $600 profit and got a $1500 rebate off that taking it below the dealer cost. So be prepared and you too can get a good deal.



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Consumer Reports
has counted down the forty best deals on domestic new cars - those you can get from 10% to 25% below MSRP. Since CR doesn't have any Chrysler products that it feels it can recommend, there are no Pentastar products on the list, and General Motors products features but twice (the 2009 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 1LT 4X4 Crew Cab can be had for 15% below retail and the 2009 GMC Sierra 4WD Crew Cab SLT SWB for a 10% discount).

Topping the chart is the 2009 Nissan Titan SE 4X4 Crew Cab SWB, for which CR figures Nissan will slice off upwards of one fourth of the price. Otherwise, dominating the top of the list are Ford products in the 15% to 20% bracket, while the lower half is owned by "domestics" in the guise of Toyota and Honda with a smattering of Nissan and Subaru.

All of the cars on the list have been tested by CR and have good overall safety scores, including rollover results. To come up with the final discount number, the magazine included customer rebates and dealer incentives. If you're looking for any one of these cars, the negotiating tactic you're probably looking for is "hard bargain." Check out the complete list of CR's Top 40 at the link below.

[Source: Consumer Reports]

Move over, Kasem, Consumer Reports charts American Top 40 (new car deals) originally appeared on Autoblog on Fri, 22 May 2009 19:00:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.

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Author: admin
13 - June - 2009

Nissan Titan Dealership

43 Comments

1. Hello Ford!:

There are three (3) big reasons that GM is finished.

[1.] Obama
[2.] Obama
[3.] Obama

End of 83+ years.
End of story.

Jun 7, 2009 - 3:24 am 2. cedarhill:

GM and Chrysler will have to all but give their products away. Even then, Obama has insured at least half of the public will not buy from Obama Motors, ever.
Their workers are just more government workers. One expects true excellence in mediocrity regardless of how one packages it. Lincoln said it best about fooling people. GM, Chrysler - RIP.

Jun 7, 2009 - 5:07 am 3. Sebastian Shaw:

I think the stake that killed GM is the UAW itself; they refused to change their contracts as the company had no other choice but to create mediocre cars from indifferent workers subsumed in their mediocrity. Freeing GM from the UAW would have allowed a fresh start & a true new beginning, but President Obama would not allow it given his privates are owned by the Unions.

What killed GM?

*the UAW
*President Obama & the other complicit Democrats given campaign money from the UAW & other corrupt unions.

With unions, the customer always comes last.

Jun 7, 2009 - 6:43 am 4. Saltherring:

I have been a Chevy and GM guy since growing up in the 50’s and 60’s. I have also purchased my last GM vehicle, a special order 2006 GMC one-ton commercial flatbed. It’s a great truck, does all I ask, but will be the last of its kind. Reason? I (still) have a choice, and refuse to support NObama’s forced takeover of an American icon, one that survived the Great Depression and could have survived this recession, had our one-party government not poisoned America’s business, investment and banking communities to the point where even partial recovery is questionable…if not impossible. No private investor will be willing to risk his/her fate with GM, not with Obama choosing who/what lives or dies. Who would buy a car, truck or SUV from a dying entity….with questionable short and long term parts, service and warranty support…not to mention resale value? Goodbye GM, was nice to know ya.

Jun 7, 2009 - 7:22 am 5. yo:

When Michael Jordan was asked why he didn’t make more political statements, he said “because republicans buy sneakers, too.” And yet, nobody in print will talk about who Obama Motors customers are going to be.

I don’t know of a conservative who will buy a car form Obama. How could this not be a part of the discussion of the “prospects” for a GM recoverry?

Jun 7, 2009 - 7:40 am 6. Mike2:

What GM needs to do is make reliable, safe, efficient vehicles that the general public can afford. Let’s face it, a GM vehicle that is cheaper than a Honda is not that cheap when the costs of repairs over the life of the vehicle are factored in. I am not advocating Japanese made cars and have never owned one but, there is a real reason that Honda and Toyota have a better reputation for reliability.

The Volt is a step in the right direction for those who need a vehicle for local driving. My hope for those of us that live in the Southwest Sunbelt is that there will be developed an affordable combination of electric cars and residential solar panel units.

Jun 7, 2009 - 8:14 am 7. ArtLowery:

Consumers will go to imports for small fuel efficient cars and to the big 3 for trucks and SUV’s. Will GM and Chrysler now leave the SUV and Truck market to Ford? Will imports like Toyota move in and take over GM and Chrysler truck and SUV business?

Jun 7, 2009 - 8:17 am 8. seven:

Gasolene price increases will hurt car sales. They did last year. Obama is a rotten apple. His involvement will cause a lot of brand loyal folks to switch. More than ever before.
Unemployment causes people that do not get laid off to postpone purchases. No Obama, laid off people don’t go buy new cars. Humans can also be loyal to certain dealers. I had an employee that owned part of a GM or Ford dealership and switched from Mercededs to vovlo because of dealer preference. He didn’t even buy from the family.
Obama tosses anyone under the bus. He has no concept that dealers had loyal customers. He doesn’t understand loyalty.

Jun 7, 2009 - 8:17 am 9. Northern Light:

One problem that GM faces that nobody seems to mention is that when the economy is bad people tend to hold onto their old cars longer. During the Great Depression many good cars sold poorly because no matter how good a car is people won’t buy it if they don’t have money.

I find it funny that people say Obama will keep people from buying GM cars. Once upon a time Volkswagon sold a lot of cars even though the brand was originally created by somebody who was very politically unpopular. If GM makes great cars people will buy them. Even Republicans.

Now, to that great car problem. GM has to accept the fact that they need a good small car. The company has always believed that because a car company makes more profit selling one $30,000 car than they do selling two $15,000 cars that they should make terrible small cars to compell people to buy more expensive models.

If they can make a good $15,000 car they will sell them. The customers who buy a good small car from GM will be willing to buy the $30,000 car when their needs or income makes an expensive car the right choice.

Jun 7, 2009 - 9:28 am 10. JED:

It is hard to ignore the argument that GM and Chrysler were seized and unlawfully presented to the unions as spoils of the election. The supreme court will have to decide that.
I have to decide the fate of my two GM mobiles since I would never buy that product line again if my choices are federal-union owned and operated with batteries against power and safety.

Jun 7, 2009 - 9:51 am 11. Meryl:

General Motors only chance for real recovery lies in a great distance between themselves and the Soetero administration. Based on present facts, I don’t see how that is possible.

They’ve sold their souls to the loanshark…and everyone who has ever done business with them knows it.

If we don’t want to deal with the loanshark, we sure aren’t going to want to do business with the loanshark’s hostage.

Jun 7, 2009 - 10:26 am 12. WR Jonas:

One of the aspects of this takeover which is seldom mentioned is owner loyalty. I have bought mostly GM vehicles for over 55 years .I know people who swear by GMC and I once had a close friend who drove GM vehicles at the Milford Proving Grounds. ( he must be in torment wherever he is). We all loved GM and its products .
But judging from comment boards and articles I see everywhere most of these people will never buy a GM product again. I really wonder about those farmers and ranchers who have relied on their pick ups and SUV’s for decades . Will they be confident the dealer will stand by the product if they have a problem?
Somehow I don’t believe the clever socialist thinkers at Government Motors have figured any of this out.
I’ve got my eye on a nice little Tundra that’ll look pretty good in my garage. Ah well, sorry Obama.

Jun 7, 2009 - 2:05 pm 13. The Historian:

GOVERNMENT & UNIONS CANNOT SAVE GM
Only the free market can recreate private sector companies.

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/06/finally-europe-getting-it-right.html

Jun 7, 2009 - 2:31 pm 14. Someone75:

How exactly did Obama kill GM? Was he in charge of the company? Did he force them to make terrible cars all these years? Was he demanding that they be gas-guzzlers at a time when gas was at record highs?

No. GM did it to themselves. Their arrogance in assuming that Americans are idiots and would continue to buy inferior cars led to their demise.

I say, let them fail. And then, let some young, fresh company with NEW ideas come in and give us a real competitor for the Japanese.

Until then, I’m helping preserve the “free market” by buying the best product: a Japanese car.

It’s a sad day.

Jun 7, 2009 - 2:41 pm 15. Blackwell:

Why are you wasting your time? GM is in a death spiral of is own making, propped up only by our money. George Bush should have refused to give it a penny. Obama should have too, but he did the next best thing: he lopped off the useless, cluless management which had done nothing of value anyway and was a captive of the UAW. Then he gave it to the people that owned it–the UAW and kept a piece for the taxpayers.

GM is a joke: People over know GM as poor workmanship, bland design, indifferent service, small tires, and unreliable parts. All made by sloppy, indifferent, benefit-crazed UAW workers whose idea of quality control is to let the customer fix it. Supervised by passionless CPA’s who were let out of the pen and into the executive suite.

People under 50 know GM as those cars that pull up next to you rattling. What you drive when you can’t afford better. Maybe OK for a Suburban driving mom, an Escalade Dad, or corvette son who likes a plastic car with no trunk.

Everyone knows them as the boxy, poor-suspensioned cars you get when you rent. Underpowered. Poor features. The car that makes you really appreciate your car at home.

GM can’t stick with any advancement: The Electric Car, the Saturn, the cadilac sports car from the 80’s…all given up when the going got hard. Its marketing is pathetic: instead of “See the USA in a Chevrolet,” and “Rocket 88″ engines, we get pictures of showrooms and bland cars. And since owes so much to so many who do so little, it can’t spend to upgrade cars, or really market their pieces of junk.

GM’s “management” were gutless, spineless, insightless people. Fools. Unable to fix any of their problems, they thought they could take taxpayer money to subsidize their incompetence and Gulfstreams and stay in control. Who will buy its bonds now? What smart “car guy” will want to work there when he can go to Toyota or Nissan? Stop wasting your time on this compnay. If it survives as anything other than a nuisance, it’ll be a miracle.

Jun 7, 2009 - 2:46 pm 16. Will:

Barak Hussein Obama is right on schedule with his adgenda to cut us down to third world statist. The auto idustry is just a part. That’s why after fifty years driving GM,I’ll not buy another.

Jun 7, 2009 - 3:50 pm 17. Sebastian Shaw:

Someone 75, President Obama fired GM’s CEO. No President of the United States has any business telling a private company what to do; hence, this is the problem in a nutshell. President Obama has also given the UAW more power by giving them the keys to GM & screw over the shareholders & car dealers, again, all linked for political purposes.

The corruption continues to grow like kudzu while GM will continue to not make any money. GM must cut the cord that has been created with the US Government to survive. However, in doing so, GM will die as it should.

Jun 7, 2009 - 4:00 pm 18. HRPKathy:

I don’t care if they are the cheapest cars in America, I won’t ever buy another GM car. Ever. Same with Chrysler.

Jun 7, 2009 - 6:14 pm 19. Jim Baker:

I won’t ever buy another GM product. I hate communists and those pansies at GM had this coming. They should have stood up to that damned union a long time ago. Same for Chrysler.
Sheesh.

Jun 7, 2009 - 6:46 pm 20. njcommuter:

Remember also that GM’s cars come with full-time satellite tracking and a remote shut-off switch in the satellite system. If you value your privacy and freedom, you will not buy such a product.

Jun 7, 2009 - 7:38 pm 21. myth buster:

Or we could enact the Fair Tax and induce the Japanese automakers to relocate their headquaters here.

Jun 7, 2009 - 8:04 pm 22. Robohobo:

JED @ 10: “It is hard to ignore the argument that GM and Chrysler were seized and unlawfully presented to the unions as spoils of the election. The supreme court will have to decide that.”

Good luck with that. Won’t ever happen. Why the sheeple in the US have not risen up to revolt against the destruction of the Republic says why that same republic is doomed to the ashcans of history.

A couple of points:

1. Being unemployed, I found a job selling Chevrolet at a local dealership where a long time acquaintance has been in sales for 30 years now. I thought it a safe bet where I could generate my own fortunes. That dealership has been in business for over 100 years. What I found in the new car sales department: Despite all of the GM generated sales boilerplate of customer uber alles was ALL of the cliche’s of car salesslime. “Buyers are liars.” “Never let the customer get away without being talked to by a manager.” “When you get their keys for the appraisal, make sure they get put in the ’sales tower’ so they can’t walk away without us letting them go.” Etc. Etc. Thieves, slime and crooked dealings is what I saw in my time there. They treated employees like dirt. I was yelled and cursed at like I was some sort of dog.

2. I bought a GM car in late 2007. I traded a ‘95 Ford T-Bird that was a gem but getting old for a ‘06 Pontiac Grand Prix GxP that was 10 months old at the time. I did not pay the ‘new car depreciation’. Nice car and I was/am liking it. BUT, GM is killing Pontiac and the value of the car has dropped in half. I now owe more on it than it is worth. I was not upside-down in it before GM announced they were going to kill the brand. Thanks, GM, The 0bamanation and Congress. May you all rot in hell. Bastards.

I was always a Ford guy until I bought the GP. I have had a ‘67 Galaxie 500, ‘72 Courier pickup, ‘85 F-150 Extended cab P/U, ‘87 T-Bird, ‘95 T-Bird, ‘00 Expedition and ‘05 Escape. I had an ‘87 Dodge Caravan POS and a ‘75 Dodge 1/2 ton P/U POS. In the future I will buy Ford, unless they get bought by the gov’t, or a Japanese/Asian car.

What The 0bamanation has done with AIG and the banks, Chrysler and now GM is unethical, immoral, most likely illegal and un-Constitutional. What the hell is wrong with the US? These guys need to be impeached and now.

We need two things in the Republic and right quickly:

1. Term limits for Congress. Short ones. This spells an end to the professional political class.
2. That Congress and Fedzilla employees are ALL forced to use the Social Security system and Medicare system. No more private retirement or healthcare systems for them. Want to see it fixed? That is how. NOW.
3. A 10th Amendment movement amongst the states to limit Federal power severely.
4. Enforce public finance for all Fedzilla electoral offices with very low limits. Force the system to only elect citizen politicians who are forced their know their constituents. Violators should face long, long prosin terms at hard labor.
5. Finally, an amendment to the Constitution that makes a balanced budget mandatory. No more BS.

Jun 7, 2009 - 8:51 pm 23. Robohobo:

Oh, one last point:

While at the unnamed slime ball GM dealer, the interest in the Camaro was huge but we never saw one. Can’t sell air, folks.

Jun 7, 2009 - 8:53 pm 24. DavidN:

I will agree with much of what’s been posted, but frankly I’m weirded out how Obama is credited with causing GM’s downfall. I’m not the guy’s biggest fan, but he hasn’t been President long enough to destroy a corporation that big. They’ve been on life support for years. Frankly, I thought the nail in the coffin was a couple of years ago, when the Japanese car companies finally invaded the full-sized truck category. That, and vans (which aren’t used that much any more, except for commercial purposes) were the only areas where the Japanese didn’t compete with American companies. Once the Titan, Ridgeline, and Tundra appeared, I thought they were in trouble. Then the economy went south, and everyone took a hit; theirs was too much for them to take.

The truth is that both the union and management deserve a considerable share of the blame. A non-union shop, with management that clumsy, probably would have fallen on hard times, and a union shop with proper management probably would have collapsed anyway. Those things, plus the bad economy, combined to almost kill the company. I don’t see how the company is going to get out of public ownership yet: who’s going to buy shares in the company, when it’s got such a lousy track record, and has the government trying to influence its decisions?

Jun 8, 2009 - 1:44 am 25. WR Jonas:

No# 24 Heres how . When Obama became the decider on who owns or runs the company,he chose the union and the government as the owners and his administration became the operators (managers) They never actually had a plan to manage but rather a plan to divvy up the assets and follow their greener cars agenda. The question of who owned the peripheral assets (dealerships and suppliers) was waved aside as insignificant to be later decided in court.
What he could have done was strenghten the shareholders and executive management position and cut the union contracts and retirement cost burden. All management decisions for the past 25 years have been made with the muzzle of the unions guns pointed at their heads. But he chose the classic communist/socialist solution . Seize the asset and fire the management.
That is why he gets the blame . He doesn’t have the vaguest idea whats make a company profitable and its products desireable

Jun 8, 2009 - 6:01 am 26. Old Soldier:

George Bush killed GM and Chrysler. He should have forced them both into real bankruptcies last year - instead of propping them up long enough for Obama to get his hooks into them.

They might have emerged as competitive non-politicized companies that all Americans would have supported. Conservatives were their biggest customers - now as the comments above indicate, they have been seriously alienated.

Of the liberals I know, the only GM vehicles they drive are Saabs – which is soon to be sold or spun-off.

Jun 8, 2009 - 6:03 am 27. john from cinncinatti:

64 Nova station wagon with a 292 inline 6, a 200r transmission, and a 373 differential. 55 Chevy 2 door hardtop 350 with a Muncie four speed. 99 Durango wanted a blazer couldn’t find one for sale. Government Motors hasn’t built a car i didn’t modify. i even put a Cummins 4bta in an 84 short bed pick up. what i’d like to see is a Cummins 6 with an Allison trans in a Hummer.

Jun 8, 2009 - 6:24 am 28. DaveK:

The old GM & Chrysler were “Dead Men Walking” a long time ago. Neither Bush nor Obama are responsible for their deaths. However… any hope of these companies ever emerging from the bankruptcy process as healthy corporations with a bright future in the automobile manufacturing business has been poisoned by the feckless infusions of taxpayer money, the insertion of our government as a managing partner, and capitulation to the special interests of labor. The new GM and Chrysler will emerge from this bankruptcy process as stillborns.

Just my $.02

Jun 8, 2009 - 6:32 am 29. WR Jonas:

To those still wallowing around in Bush Derangement Syndrome : Bush did not seize the company or put a bunch of know-nothings in charge , appoint a Car czar or demand Green cars. He thought it was a financial crisis and money was the remedy. Do any of you think the Republicans or Bush would have been unmercifully and eternally hammered by the Democrat drooling press if he had not made some effort to save the company ?
Now that Obama has driven a stake through the heart of GM he thinks it can operate as a zombie corporation.
So lets give credit where credit is due, this one is on Obama and its about time for the BDS’ers to realize your boy is fully in charge now and he gets the blame.

Jun 8, 2009 - 8:19 am 30. Osprey1:

Dave K just nailed it quickly and succinctly. Well done Dave.

I myself recognize that Obama did not cause GM to fail, he just made sure that GM can never recover. Funny we are in a war in this country between Capitalism and Socialism, and many who voted for Socialism don’t as of yet realize that they did so. The incomplete understanding of our situation is astounding. So while the “right wing” capitalists are condemning the GM deal and vowing never to purchase there products till they again are a free company (and yes I do believe that if by some twist of fate the stock held by the government was sold and GM freed many would once again agree to purchase there products), the “left wing” can’t seem to grasp what the problem is. Just amazing.

God Bless America…..we sure do need it as we sit in this hand basket with only 48% of us knowing where we are going.

Jun 8, 2009 - 8:28 am 31. RIP, GM:

Their cost structure is still too high to compete on the low end with the Asians, and their quality culture is still too poor to compete with the Euros on the high end. They’re a one-trick pony, and that’s big SUVs.

As long as the donkeys insist on limiting domestic oil production and carbon-based alternatives, and pushing CAFE to the limits, they’re screwed.

Maybe some Chinese company will buy the trademarks.

Jun 8, 2009 - 10:12 am 32. Sebastian Shaw:

With the all new, all different cafe standards, are not the GM trucks & SUV’s an extinct brand? However, this is what sold for GM & what the customers wanted. With the beuarocrats involved, all of this will be washed away for political hacks such as the UAW & the nutty environmentalists to make so-called “green cars.” These will be 35 MPH dangerous tin cans with wheels.

Jun 8, 2009 - 10:34 am 33. Sebastian Shaw:

Will Ford be drawn in the quagmire given they use the UAW as well? Ford has to cancel the UAW contracts ASAP to survive.

Jun 8, 2009 - 10:36 am 34. Self-hating Boomer:

Meanwhile, the GM brass continues to dazzle us with their understanding of the market:

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/06/05/gm-marketing-boss-mark-laneve-apparently-unaware-that-diesel-is/

Jun 8, 2009 - 11:46 am 35. G Alston:

#31 — They’re a one-trick pony, and that’s big SUVs.

That’s a bit wierd. Detroit outside of the Jeep cherokee didn’t do SUV’s until the Japanese made them popular. We had a 4Runner in the mid 80’s, many years before the Explorer came out. At one time we were one of the few on the road with that sort of vehicle.

With all due respect to Mr. Douglas, marketing can’t solve the fact that Detroit doesn’t innovate. How long ago was Toyota and Honda selling hybrids? SUV’s as we know them were brought here by the Japanese. Current big hit for the younger set? The rolling refrigerator look from Scion and Kia. Not a Detroit vehicle in sight. Marketing can’t fix a lack of innovation.

Douglas’ other point seems to be in that squishy zone of suggesting that we’re all GM buyers, but somehow we lost our way. Tempted by the dark side of Toyota. Some of my age group is that way, but I’ve owned non-Detroit vehicles for some 40 years now. No amount of marketing would cause me to take a Detroit vehicle seriously; I wouldn’t have one for a gift, much less pay for it. Like #15 I’ve traveled a lot more than I care to admit to and have had the misfortune of getting stuck with most Detroit makes/models via rentals over the years. Marketing isn’t going to fix crappy vehicles.

Lastly, my kids all drive, and not one of them would consider a Detroit made vehicle. It doesn’t matter how much Bob Seger (more cowbell!) is used. What did they buy? Two Hondas, a Nissan, and a Toyota. They all share comfort and reliability. Just like the learned inertia that allowed for family lifetime GM buying, the inertia is now no longer in favour of GM. Marketing isn’t going to fix inertia.

Sorry, Mr. Douglas. Marketing couldn’t convince people to like “new coke” and it’s useless here as well.

Jun 8, 2009 - 2:10 pm 36. Self-hating Boomer:

Detroit outside of the Jeep cherokee didn’t do SUV’s until the Japanese made them popular.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_K5_Blazer

The Chevrolet Suburban is a large sport utility vehicle from Chevrolet. It is the longest-lived continuous automobile nameplate still in production, dating from 1935…

Gee, we have a lot of smart people here…

Jun 8, 2009 - 2:53 pm 37. Self-hating Boomer:

Err…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Suburban

Jun 8, 2009 - 2:53 pm 38. G Alston:

#36 — Gee, we have a lot of smart people here…

I’ll say.

I’d said — “SUV’s as we know them were brought here by the Japanese.”

Obviously I was referring not to sparsely selling rolling behemoths based on humongous pickups, but smaller SPORTY vehicles based on the smallish mini-pickups.

Unless of course you’re trying to claim that the gargantuan POS Blazer which sold in dribbles somehow spontaneously and for no apparent reason sparked the revolution.

Jun 8, 2009 - 3:59 pm 39. Self-hating Boomer:

The SUV as personal transportation was caused by CAFE. Our congress caused the SUV as everyday vehicle. To combat 12 MPG cars, we got 8 MPG SUVs.

And these Einsteins are at it again, only stupider this time.

Jun 8, 2009 - 5:46 pm 40. G Alston:

#39 — The SUV as personal transportation was caused by CAFE. Our congress caused the SUV as everyday vehicle. To combat 12 MPG cars, we got 8 MPG SUVs.

I don’t know where you get this from. Our mid-80’s 4Runner got 25 mpg, and that was with CA emissions equipment. At the same time we owned a Mazda hatchback that got just shy of 40 mpg.

Jun 8, 2009 - 5:52 pm 41. Self-hating Boomer:

Must be a new memo out from Soros. Now SUVs are nice, clean, green, ecomobiles, and are no longer spawn of the devil. More Calvinball.

Jun 8, 2009 - 7:14 pm 42. john from cinncinatti:

landrover is that a japanese brand. suv means offroad, not a 4 wheel drive station wagon for soccer moms.

Jun 9, 2009 - 12:39 am 43. Amos:

On Obama destroying General Motors: Nobody is saying he brought them to the point they were at on the day of his inauguration. What we’re saying is that while GM’s well was dry, Obama poisoned it. Bush took water from another well and diverted it to GM. Shouldn’t have, but we get it. Obama has fundamentally changed what that well is, and who can use it. (Not the consumer or the people who lent GM money, but them that supports his regime.)

Once, GM could have been bought out in whole or in pieces by private parties. Now, the only thing we can do with it is swear it off. The UAW, GM and Obama have stolen our wealth for their benefit. The only honorable thing to do, other than toss them out of power, is to boycott their products and toast marshmallows on their smoldering ruins.

Jun 9, 2009 - 4:23 pm

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For those who are trying to pick the important details out of the GM restructuring stories flying around today, here’s what we know so far:

(Updated 5:00 p.m., 4/27)
Pontiac is to be phased out entirely by the end of 2010; Hummer and Saturn will be phased out by the end of 2009; Saab will hopefully be sold off shortly, and it seems GM is fairly confident this will happen.
– The G8 will be gone as of the end of this model year (2009).
– The G6, G3, Solstice and Torrent will slowly disappear through the 2009 and 2010 model years.
– The Vibe will likely be the final production vehicle in the lineup.
– More than 20,000 layoffs are expected, though it’s not known yet which divisions (obviously, Pontiac -related is a safe bet here) and facilities will be impacted.
– There will be an “acceleration” of plant idling and shut-down along with a significant reduction in the dealer network — reportedly up to 40%.
– The restructuring plan will result in the taxpayers and union trusts owning a hefty chunk of General Motors.
– Bankruptcy is still not off the table.
– There is currently no viable offer on the table for the Saturn dealership network.

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The S:S:L NAIAS team saw the writing on the wall for Pontiac back in January. You can read those observations here:

http://www.speedsportlife.com/2009/01/14/lord-byron-pontiac-was-car/

It’s worth noting that any deal involving Saturn is further complicated by their unique position as a dealer network; as an entity, Saturn has no manufacturing infrastructure of its own. An appropriate suitor for the Saturn nameplate would either have to a) be a car manufacturer that can supply vehicles for Saturn to brand and sell, or b) be an equity firm who can source production from either GM or another manufacturer in order to put product in the showrooms.

A few weeks back, I pointed out the possibility of a Renault-Nissan-Saturn alliance in a discussion, and I’m not the only one calling this as a viable option. Now that Chrysler’s deal to share trucks and small call platforms with Nissan is on shaky ground (you can thank the Italians in part for that one, I’d wager), you can bet Ghosn will be looking at other options for having more “American” vehicles for sale here in the states. Saturn provides an excellent platform for this, allowing them to both source current domestic product while shifting toward rebadged imports if the brand succeeds. A manufacturing deal with GM for Saturn product could provide inroads for Renault to source GM’s truck platform to underpin the next Titan if their relationship with Chrysler deteriorates to the point where the Ram platform is no longer a viable option.

At this point, it’s anybody’s guess, but GM has reassured us today that things will get far worse before they get any better.


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13 - June - 2009

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For 2007, the Nissan line of vehicles includes the new Nissan Versa. Aside from this, you would find other Nissan vehicles like the Nissan Altima and Sentra in the line up. You can also find the Nissan Maxima, and Quest in the list.

The Nissan Altima would be available for 2007 and this time around, it would already be in its fourth generation. The 2007 Nissan Altima has been redesigned and it comes available with the new Xtronic Continuously Variable Transmission, or CVT. This would also be having a new and restyled platform for better and improved body rigidity.

Entering the sixth generation, the 2007 Nissan Maxima would now be sporting off a restyled exterior. As per its interior, you can most certainly find it very refined. A pack of high technology made for the next generation has also been added in the vehicle. What makes the 2007 Nissan Maxima quite different this year is that it is much more sporty and luxurious at the same time.

As per the Nissan Sentra of 2007, this car offers style along with quality, and optimum performance. Owners would most surely find an abundance of space with this vehicle. Sure enough, Nissan has made certain that this popular car from the company would remain to be one of the topnotch choices of consumers in the auto market.

These are just a few of the vehicles that Nissan has to offer for 2007. The list of 2007 Nissan vehicles include the 2007 Nissan Versa which has been created so as to set standards and not compromise the features that it has with the norms of the auto world. You also can find the Nissan Quest, the Titan King Cab, Titan Crew Cab, Nissan Armada, Frontier King Cab, Frontier Crew Cab, the Pathfinder, the Xterra, Murano, and the 350Z coupe and roadster included in the list.